Lolita’s is one of the most famous BJ bar in Bangkok. You may have heard of more than one place called Lolita’s in Thailand. The shop under review here is the original, stationed in the heart of the lower Sukhumvit area. Established fifteen years ago the Lolita’s brand eventually extended to new locations across the country, from Pattaya to Hua Hin.
Some of those locations seem to have gone independent, some have gone up for sale, and some have closed. That may not look like a great track record, but when you consider that we are talking about blowjob bars it is actually pretty incredible that they were able to franchise at all!
Lolita’s on Sukhumvit Soi 8
The original Lolita’s is easy to find, located just off of Sukhumvit Soi 8, only a minute or two on foot from Sukhumvit Road itself. The sign and front patio are visible from Soi 8.
When you approach Lolita’s you’ll easily see the staff members who are available at the moment stationed outside waiting for customers to arrive. You will be given a welcome and offered to step inside.
As with any other bar of this nature, standard practice is to select the woman you like most from those sitting outside and ask her to join you inside. If you don’t make a choice, whoever is next up in the queue may just get up and join you on her own. You are no under obligation to take a woman who volunteers herself, but it can be a bit awkward refusing her services. The easiest thing to do is simply select the service provider you’d like to spend some time with right at the door.
A word on the staff at Lolita’s Bangkok is due. This bar has been around for a while. That may be why they seem to have one of the largest numbers of women of any blowjob bar in Bangkok (with the definite exception of Dr. BJ’s Salon). There may not be dozens of women lined up outside at any given time, but the place does employ a very large number of women in total. Some work occasionally or only in odd shifts. One of the best I’ve ever found there only came to work during the last four hours of operation, and even then only on certain days.
The famous uniforms
With the large staff there is sure to be someone for all tastes available at Lolita’s. While looks aren’t necessarily the most important things at a place like this it is good to know that a large percentage of those who work at Lolita’s are in fact quite attractive. More than a few are in the low-20’s, which is pretty exceptional considering the line of work and comparisons with some other similar shops. Don’t take the name too seriously though. Everyone on staff at this outfit is clearly an adult.
Speaking of outfits, it helps a great deal that the women who work at Lolita’s wear very sexy short plaid skirts and golf shirts that make them look even better than they would normally, at least in the opinion of this observer. It’s no wonder that the Lolita’s “uniform” seems to have become a standard, with women working at the Lolita’s in Pattaya wearing very similar attire.
Inside and upstairs
Once you select a woman from the available staff, you will head inside where you will probably be offered a drink. You don’t have have to accept the offer unless you are thirsty or have the urge to hang around in the lobby of a suck shop. There’s absolutely no pressure. If you just want to get straight to the action you can politely indicate that you’d like to go upstairs. Your service provider will be as pleased with that as you will, since it means she can cut right to the chase of money making.
The action at Lolita’s takes place upstairs in a clean and fresh room filled with comfortable chairs that are spaced enough to give customers some level of privacy. If the layout doesn’t do enough for you, the full-length, ceiling-to-floor curtains that completely surround the chairs should lay to rest any concerns. Those looking to live out their disco fantasies will be pleased with the flashing, colored lighting professionally installed on the ceiling. The rest will probably not notice it, though it sure beats the old uncovered neon line shining in your eyes while you throw your head back in ecstasy.
Once you are in the chair and curtained off with the service provider of his choice the real fun starts. After dropping trou and getting comfy on the chair, the customer service specialist will kneel down, clean up the tool and go to work. Service at places like these always varies from one woman to another but Lolita’s is professional enough to staff those who know what they are doing. They aren’t clock watchers either. Most can get down to the task for however much time is required without any complaints. Of course there are always limits. As long as the customer is reasonable they should leave very happy.
Lolita’s BJ bar in Bangkok
After the cork is popped and the champagne goes flying, you will be cleaned up once more and then re-trou. The service provider will clean herself up to whatever extent required and then show her man of the hour back downstairs to the bar. Here he will settle his bill, which is 800 Baht ($26) for the private session plus the price of any drinks.
If 800 Baht seems cheap, it really isn’t when put into context. Not long ago the standard rates were much lower. Now the standard seems to be between 700 and 800 Baht across the country, with the notable exception of the new Pattaya Lolita’s which only asks for 600. Bangkok BJ bar Mike’s Place also asks for 800, but the Lollipop and Som’s are sticking to 700 for the time being.
Lolita’s Bangkok is one of the longest standing blowjob bars in Thailand. That says something about the place. That the management continues to update the shop to this day instead of just letting it coast like the owners of many adult venues do says even more. This is a well known place with a reliable level of service from great girls in a comfortable environment. I give it three-and-a-half stars. I might have scored it higher if the price was a 100-200 Baht less or if semi-public action was available as it is at Star of Light. My scoring puts Lolita’s Bangkok a half star below the nearby Dr. BJ’s, though on any given day it may be the better option.
This review comes just in time for me to wish all of my readers in America a very Happy Halloween. How fitting then that it covers a place where the women put on sexy little costumes every single day. 
Lolita’s. Sukhumvit Soi 8, Bangkok, Thailand. Click here for a map. Open every day from 9:00 AM until 1:00 AM. Website: http://www.lolitasbangkok.com
The upstairs environment does matter, and Lolitas have got it right. Dr Bj’s has the best selection of ladies, but the standard rooms there are a bit like a warehouse/store room. Also I like a bj bar to be down an alleyway, it just gets my heart racing a little. Whether 600, 700, 800, or 1000 baht, I don’t give a damn, if it is a good experience, then I am more than willing to pay 1000. BTW I was in Soi 8 a week ago and they have two ex consultants from Dr Bj’s working there now.
Thanks for the comment and updates. Should I take it from this and earlier things you’ve written on the site that Lolita’s Bangkok is your favorite BJ bar?
Lolitas BKK is probably my favourite. It has an old style charm which I like. I imagine the Kangaroo Club might be similar, although I only went there one time and that was ten years ago. I first went to Lolitas when it was in Soi Cowboy, that was ten years ago, back when Soi 8 was a bj bar called Alley Cats.
Kangaroo is a bit small and old with a limited staff, though fun can definitely be had there. I visited fairly recently and I’ve already written up a review that will appear on the site soon.
my favorite place i like the girls services and the extra mile
i took a girl KAT last time she came so much on my hand it was juicy as she blew me off it was all over her face will go again
Have you ever been to Lolita’s on the Mekong in Nakhon Phanom, Rockit?
I know of it, but I haven’t visited. Cheers.
This place was fun to be in. Not sure why there are no more comments. These girls are fun to be around, playful, skillful and some (not a lot) beautiful.
Took my time when I was here, sat inside with a cold beer, a few ladies followed me in and normal chit chat. Took 2 ladies upstairs and had a blast in the small booths. Will repeat again for sure.
Another Indian seal of approval!!
Thanks for the comment.
My first time there and was introduced to N***, full B cup, and was very determined to get the first 10 minute but in the end still no from me, the final 25 minute she allow me to CIM in her mouth and that what i called great experience!
I tip her, but dont know how much is good tip. Instead i give her 120 baht? is it too low or in average? i still think i should tip her more Rockit?
Great website and thanks for the superb review! had great experience in Bangkok!
Thanks for the comment. I don’t recommend anything. This site is for entertainment purposes only. There has been discussion of tipping in places like this before on the site. It is certainly not required or expected, though some have taken issue we me stating this. Cheers.
I went by Lolita’s, Kasalong and Som’s on a Saturday night. Lolita’s had the most girls out front and the best lookers by far. I took a petite and sweet young thing up the stairs at Lolita’s and was more than happy with the decision. She took off her top and bra on request to reveal a glorious set of plump perkies. This girl had gogo level beauty. Great body, beautiful face. She was fine with some light touching. In fact, her attitude throughout was stellar. It was my best experience at a BJ bar so far. Lolita’s has the best uniforms, the best looking girls, and consistently good service. You might consider upping your rating. It’s well worth the extra 100 baht in my opinion for a high quality girl.
BTW, do you know how much full service is at Lolita’s?
Thanks for the report. Any identifiable traits about the woman? The last time I passed through the good looking gals were hard to find even though some real performers were around. I don’t know exactly what full service goes for right now. Someone else probably does. A thousand is the common price at these kinds of places. It can be higher like at Kasa when using a private room. Cheers.
Unless one of them has raised their asking prices very recently, the Short Time rooms for Full Service at Lolita’s, Kasalong Bar and Som’s are all the same price and terms; 1700b and you get to spend an hour or so with the girl in them. Like the 700b-800b BJ room deal, tips are welcome but not required. Not sure about the cost terms at other BJ bars in the area like Lollipop1 and Dr. BJ’s Salon.
I don’t know about lollipop either. BJ charges 1000 for the room on top of the regular fee, so it ends up being 1700 – 2000. Kasalong was only 1300 when I checked recently. I’ve never gone over 1000 at Som’s but then again I’ve never used a special room there. The regular quarters are big enough and have couches.
No distinguishing features really. She’s petite with shoulder length hair. Fresher and younger looking than the typical blowjob girl.
I was in both Som’s and Kasalong this afternoon and both quoted B1700/hr for FS in the large room.
Thanks for the info. Cheers.
Another great visit to Lolitas yesterday. Chose a young girl to finished cleaning my pipe in record time. A lot of slurping in the next booth with a guy to kept saying “suck you you little bitch” lol a bit of putting what what the heck, go for it my son lol.
Lolitas seem to have turned their business model around with many new, young and experienced girls willing to please. So good on the owner to change his ways.
No time limit either which is good, so the racist place round the corned should take note!
Lolitas service 10/10 – girl 9/10 – repeat YES (today lol)
this time when i went to lolitas i took a small girl with small breasts
she must be 20
her tits were so tight and firm she allowed me to cuddle and kiss
her tongue teasing and edging was excellent
her finishing was the best i came in her small mouth with full satisfaction
repeat yes
Thanks for the report. Cheers.
I am thinkijg visiting this place later today, does it offers bbbj and cim(limit to certain girls or all cbj?)
As far as I know that is standard service at every bj bar in Thailand. I have heard of one or two women at Dr BJ’s asking customers to cover up for whatever reason but it’s otherwise very rare. Cheers.
I’ve stayed in the Sukhumvit Crown right beside this place many times but never ventured inside….might give it a go this year!
Hi Rockit – I finally made my long awaited return to Bangkok and made a visit to Lolitas in Soi 8. I gave a nod to a good looking young girl at the doorway and asked her to bring along a friend. Her friend was a bit older and had a great pair of D cup tits which I got onto upstairs in the room. They both stripped off from the waist up and proceeded to both play the flute together which was fantastic I thought. They were both really enthusiastic in giving me a good time and allowed me to roam my hands all over them in the small curtained off room with a small vinyl sofa. The whole area where the fun took place was all clean and I finally let go flushing one girls tonsils. A thoroughly enjoyable experience was had and I would gladly recommend to any horny guy looking for some oral satisfaction. I paid the 1600 Baht tab and passed on a 100 B tip to each girl which they were pleased to accept. Welcome back to Bangkok I thought and am definitely looking forward to returning to Lolitas. Cheers.
Thanks for the report. Cheers!
Maybe when a girl asks customers to use a condom it is because she knows she has an STD?
That’s a possibility but probably unlikely in a blowjob bar. As far as I know STD tests are rarely if even done on throats and infections in the throat are often asymptomatic so they often go unnoticed or mistaken as a sore throat. A regular gonorrhea or chlamydia test would show an infection in the genitals but that’s obviously a different part of the body than the one used in the places in question. If a gal asks a guy to wear a condom in a BJ bar it is probably because she fears catching something from him. Of course I’m neither a doctor or a mind reader. I just write what I think. Cheers.
You can catch gonnhorea and chlamydia by a blowjob. Read online, my friend catched it at a BJ bar that I won’t mention.
Yes it’s possible to pick up a few things from unprotected oral sex. Because the possibility of that is fairly low and the cure usually involves taking a few pills most people who frequent these kinds of places are okay with the risk. Those who aren’t stay away or use rubbers. Cheers.
Went here recently, the price has been raised to 800baht.
Yes as reported in a recent post on blowjob bars this bar and Kasalong nearby have raised their rates to 800 Baht. Cheers.
Do you know if som’s raised their prices as well?
You may want to read the report in question which is on the front page. I mentioned there that Som’s is one of the last places sticking to the 700 Baht rate which was at least true the last time I visited. Cheers.
I was here on my recent vacation to the LOS. My favorite Nong it seems has retired to take care of a child. Luckily Ploy my second favorite still works here. The reason I am posting is the first night I went there was a thai gentlemen sitting in one of the chairs near the entrance noodling on a phone. If I was in my home country I would have said he had the look of an undercover policeman. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced that? Also he could have snapped a photo with his phone easily on my exit. Perhaps just a little paranoid with closure of the Doctors, but I would hate to find myself on a blacklist to Thailand.
Thanks for the report. Nong was one of the greatest performers of all time. It’s not out of the norm for Thai guys to sit inside or around the entrance. I’m not sure what they are doing. It may have something to do with tea. Cheers.
Went there yesterday for the first time. Was surprised to see some younger cute girls outside. Ended up taking ‘Por’ who i’d rate as a 9/10 and early 20s. There was one other young cute girl and then the usual suspects. She was friendly and service was ok (but not amazing). 800b. The upstairs couch room was clean and comfortable. Lighting was a bit annoying but overall good experience.
Thanks for the report. At least one commenter here has said that the red light is one of their favorite things about the place. Different strokes for different folks I guess. Cheers.
During my most recent trip to Bangkok, I visited Lolita’s (Bangkok) five times each with a different girl. Out of all the suck shops I visited Lolita’s offered the most inconsistent BJ experience. The cocksmithing ran from terrible to excellent. The worst session was an HJ pretending to be a BJ with cum dodging. While the best session was absolutely mind blowing made possible by Lolita’s unique setup.
For the best session, the selection was limited to three girls. I chose one and we headed upstairs. Upon entering the service area, the reason for the limited selection was made clear, nearly all the booths were in use. The associated sights and sounds made for quite the atmosphere. I still cannot get over the memory of seeing two rows of booths, each booth with its curtain drawn, and a pair of legs sticking out. My girl was clearly responding to all the energy. She quickly sat me down and attempted to suck my soul out through my cock. It was amazing how her BJ changed with the ebb and flow of sexual energy. If you like to gamble then Lolita’s is for you.
Absolutely this is a mind blowing experience, and thanks Rockit, I used your guides countless times. I have been to Thailand three times this year, first time I went to Phuket, second time to Pattaya (I liked Bliss Lounge there) and this time just Bangkok. I have to admit, Pattaya is the best out of all three, but Lolitas is great. A girl called May gives amazing blowjobs, and she let me cum on her face too. Shame that it seems that the Thai government is cracking down on these type of establishments. Perhaps it’s not that, rather the rise of social media sex. In any case, I hope it never dies down. By the way, I would be delighted to join other punters on a trip. Let’s enjoy this together.
Thanks for the comment. I don’t know that blowjob job shops are under attack. Some new places have opened in recent years. Finally I would say that this site is for entertainment only. There are no guides to anything here nor are there any recommendations. What you do in life is “up to you”. Cheers.
My goodness. This place is heaven on earth. My last time in Bangkok (June of this year), I spent four days in the city. I went to this Lolita’s seven times during those four days and each time, the girl (I lucked up and had the same one four times) got her throat coated nicely with my man-made lotion. One day, I had Lolita’s on my mind, while at Wat Arun, and that got me rock hard. Before I hit my hotel room that day, I made another stop at Lolitas. I picked a nice slim girl, with long hair and sizeable funbags for her small body. I think I blew my load in less than four minutes and she caught of all it and left no evidence that I jizzed.
If my ex-wife gave head that good, we’d still be married.
Oh my Goodness. This place is heaven and I have your reports to thank for it. I would not have known about had I not surfed rockitreports.
Thanks for the comment. Cheers.
Awesome. Lolita’s on the mind under the massive spires of Wat Arun is pretty understandable.
BTW, if my marriages were based on quality blowjibs, I’d have five wives (and two husbands lol).
Just hours ago had a BAD experience at Lolitas. Girl was obviously tired from working, but 30 min is suppose to last 30 min. After 8 min she was getting fed up very clearly. I like a long bj. So told her just keep it up, u can alterate just u keep the action going. After 15 min the girl suddenly snaps and rushes out of the booth screaming in thai about im taking too long time. We go down and she yeals in thai put 800 Baht on the counter. So i do and leave- never to come back……. All people can have a bad day, but work is work and 1/2hour is suppose to last that long.
Thanks for the report Mr Bean. Cheers.
Highly recommend Mah, works during day shift. Can go deep but not for long. Has a baller move where she puts your hands on her head after the warm up. Lots of spit nice and sloppy. YMMV as always.
Thanks for the comment. I don’t know Mah. I haven’t seen women introduce the hands on head position since the famous Nong left the shop years ago. Cheers.
I read on Stickboy that the Aussie owner had suicided. Anyone know if it has reopened. I hope his legacy carries on.
Hi Ed. I read the same news. I haven’t heard of anything else about the shop since. Maybe someone else has information. Cheers.
Is is true this place closed down already, because of its owner take its own life?
It certainly appears that way at the moment. Cheers.
Ok, thanks. It’s a real shame. But nothing is forever, and i see time and again that the owners of these bars lose interest and they go downhill [the bars] until they give up – or worse. The mamasan at Lolitas was very good, maybe we get a phoenix from the flames, i hope.
It’s not necessarily the end of the line for Lolita’s. Who knows? Remember that the shop started under different ownership years ago. Then the owner of the original Lolita’s in Pattaya passed away. Soon after there was a new Lolita’s in Pattaya. I think you are one of the people that told me about that place. It’s difficult to know how things will progress from here. Cheers.
FWIW: the last few days, they’ve had the door propped open with a stool but no lights on, today I wondered in to see if they were just being discreet, a girl inside said they’d be open later that afternoon.
They might not be entirely closed, maybe just working things out.
Thanks for the great report. Cheers!
Thanks.
Yes, maybe the Lolitas brand will live on. Oldest and best and best location too.
At the very least the name has lasted for generations! Remember the Lolita’s in Hua Hin? Cheers!
Yes, i remember there was Lolitas in Hua Hin and also Nakon Pranom. Imagine that, a franchise of BJ bars. Dr Bj’s was once talking of branching out too, but that never happened. Last night Excite Club was open again. Cheers.
Thanks for the report. Seems things are still changing from one day to the next. Cheers.
Hi may I know is this place still open,I planning of coming to bangkok in may or june
It seems the place has been closed since the owner committed suicide.
http://www.lolitasbangkok.com/index.html. Based on the website,it says it still open,I hope can somebody give a confirmation
That website hasn’t been updated or changed in years. As far as I know the place has been closed since the owner committed suicide.
Has it been confirmed that the owner committed suicide? I can’t find anything about it on the Internet.
I wonder where the girls are now. Normally they’d go to Kasalong but it’s closed too now, isn’t it?
Kasalong is open. From what I’ve heard some women ended up at Duangporn’s but I cannot confirm that. Nor can I personally confirm that the owner of Lolita’s committed suicide. It was originally reported by Stickboy BKK. Several other people have reported the event. Cheers.
Hey I was there yesterday. They have one employee until the end of May. Ma? Maa? Apparently they will be back open with more women and full time on June 1st. Right now no uniforms, nobody outside, and just Mah as the sole employee. Won’t be here and won’t know if true or not. Right now they are operating 9am to 6pm. Apparently the Australian’s wife is going to run it. She brought this up and I wasn’t going to dig so take this with a grain of salt that the owner died of complications do to having his stomach operated on. Anyways Ma stills gives great head, one of my favorites still standing.
Thanks for the detailed report. This gives us more information. Cheers!
Still open I was there yesterday just one employee. Maa. She gives great head though. Saw her before the pandemic. She says they are opening full time and with more staff members June 1st when bars open. Apparently the Australian’s wife is going to run the place. No uniforms right now, hours are 9am to 6pm. She brought up the Australians death and claimed it was complications due to stomach surgery. Take with a grain of salt I am sure.
It could be true. I was told that he committed suicide. But it was second hand information. I would tend to believe a man’s wife. Besides it’s really none of my business. Cheers.
I heard from another source that it was suicide, money worries mostly caused by the pandemic. I guess he got the opposite of government help – various parties would still be on at him for bribe money – and friends would melt away when asked to help.
There aren’t many bj bars left standing now, are there?
Thanks for the comment. As far as I know only one BJ bar has closed in Bangkok. It was one that opened right as the pandemic was beginning. Cheers.
Hi Slibby, that’s a relieve information to know this place is still operating
I thought BitStyle closed during the pandemic too? Its website has gone, Gdiary hasn’t been updated for it, it’s gone off thai-now and some other Japanese sites and I haven’t seen any reports mentioning it.
I believe Bitstyle closed. But I haven’t considered that a BJ bar for some time. After the original owner sold the place it went through a lot of changes and became more like some sort of fetish massage parlor. Cheers.
I recently visited this suck shop for the first time, and I am thankful for the information of the community here. I walked up and saw about five mostly older women (This was a late Friday afternoon foray for me, for context) outside, sitting around the tables. They were starting to speak, but I, now knowing the routine, asked for Mah. They all laughed (As I have come to believe is a good sign, based on the fact that it seems to correlate with the most-popular girl at a given bar), and called out for her just inside the door. She came out, and upon seeing her, reaffirmed my decision to go there (As it was questionable based on the “talent” outside, very long in the tooth and mostly chubby).
Once inside, Mah asked what I wanted, and then asked me to affirm that I wanted her, as she had just eaten something spicy/her mouth was spicy (Honestly, I didn’t see any food out or inside, and it was around 4 PM, so I’m betting on she just had another John and maybe wanted a break). She asked me if I wanted a condom or no condom (As has been mentioned of this place several times before). I’m of the opinion that if it’s just oral, I cannot feel shit inside of a jimmy hat, so I refused, and she seemed totally fine with the decision. She led me to a booth (I was the only customer), and went to wash out her mouth. She asked me my age, and told me that she was 37! (She looked maybe 25 at most, so she has aged tremendously well–in fact, she told me she will turn 38 next Songkran). She started with some beautiful tonguing of my sack, and made her way up my shaft. She used the baby oil from the start in conjunction with the blowjob, but had a nice pace with both suck and hands, and could’ve made me blow about halfway through if she had kept it up.
After about 10 minutes, as Slibby earlier confirmed, Mah did pull out the pro move and grabbed my hand forcefully and put it on top of her head. I told her how sexy that was, and probably made her regret doing so, as I was a little overzealous, and fucked her face pretty hard/pulled out some of the rows she had in her hair. She went for about 2-3 minutes before pulling up lame, and telling me that was about all that she could do. For me, I don’t mind doing the manual labor after the majority of the work has been done, provided the girl is still involved/seems legitimately interested in my orgasm. Mah sat there on her knees like a little sex vixen, licking my tip and moaning, telling me “Yar” repeatedly (Which I guess passes for yes, though did distract my mind/make me think back to a character from Hot Fuzz). Eventually, I came, and she went down on my dick for about a minute after the juices started flowing.
In general, it was quite a good experience. I think there certainly could’ve been a better blowjob, but again, maybe I caught her at an odd time/off day. She was a solid 9 out of 10 conventionally, so I would highly recommend her as a looker, though she isn’t working with much in the chest area (Nor did she offer to/take off her top during the deed), which is usually a pretty big deal for me. I’d be interested to go back and see her work again.
Also, in case anyone was interested, no, I felt no spice whatsoever (And she told me she had eaten mango just before, so, I don’t really know why it would’ve been that spicy anyway). I also found the red light a bit odd, but to each their own.
Thank you for the detailed report. Cheers!
I was in Bangkok August 2023 and stayed just across the street from Soi 8 and so made a point of walking by to check out the staff several times. The quality of the girls here varies greatly and it really seems to be very hit and miss. Sometimes there would only be two or three plain looking ladies sitting outside, other times six or seven with three or four good looking ones.
I ventured in twice, different girl each time, both attractive and both gave great service.
At 800 baht, plus tip if you’re so inclined, it’s money well spent in my opinion.
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Thanks for the on the ground report Adam. The place is hit or miss. But the price is low and hasn’t increased in quite some time. Cheers!
Walked by Lolita’s a week ago around 5pm and there were 4 girls sitting outside. 3 looked young and reasonably attractive on quick walk-by inspection. I was on my way to meet a friend on Soi 8 so I didn’t have the chance to sample. But good to see the shop back selling fun.
Thanks for the report Steve. The shop is indeed back in action. Cheers!
I was there already for some weeks at a weekday afternoon. Outside were 6 girls and a very beautiful girl in her 20s took me directly upstairs, after I paid 800. There were one other curtain closed. I sat on the couch, she closed the curtain and did a really great job. I was happy and surprised how good the girls look.
I know that, they have ST rooms, but is it also possible to fuck on the couches?
Thanks for the report Mack. I think the activities depend on the ladies. The ownership has changed over the years and policies may have too. Cheers.